conflict, which has its roots going far back in history, and as i said, each side believes that they are in the right. >> this is brooke, ben. it's a broader conflict, and i'm glad you give us that context. this has been going back for decades and decades and decades. but ultimately, you know, the goal, depending on who you're talking to, is peace. and when you look at these images here, on the streets of tel aviv, this bombed out bus, shattered glass, multiple injuries, how much is this a game changer in terms of these talks under way in egypt? >> well, whoever is behind it clearly wanted to derail the peace efforts that are ongoing by egypt, by turkey, by the united states. and others. this is oftentimes what happens. for instance, let's sort of go theoretical here. there are factions, groups within hamas, who are eager to achieve a cease-fire. i don't think there's any doubt about it.